"Roger Federer and The Reign of Technology" by the Underwoods

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This entry was posted on 6/11/2008 9:22 AM and is filed under Pros - Federer,Mental Skills.

The recent 2008 French Open final has really hit a sore spot with a lot of us where Federer appeared to not really give much of an extended effort to try to "change a losing game".

My post the other day stirred up lots of debate, and one of your fellow WebTennis.net subscribers, Roger Underwood from Australia, was kind enough to pass along an article he wrote which ironically focuses on the exact same subject of not changing a losing game when Federer lost to Djokavic at the Australian earlier this year.

With Roger's permission, here is his article...

I also have some comments at the end.

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Roger Federer and the Reign of Technology
By Peter Underwood and Roger Underwood

To many tennis fans, Roger Federer’s defeat by Novak Djokavic in the Australian Open was painful. For the World Champion not only comprehensively lost, but appeared out of form, out of sorts, and out of ideas. Why?

One obvious reason might be that Federer was having a bad day – something that happens to everybody – even Federer. However to those who love tennis history, this can only be a part of the explanation: why did he appear incapable of devising any sort of response to his young opponent’s barrage? Why, the match slipping away, bash it out from the baseline against an opponent whose martial strategy was precisely that?

Now greybeards are notoriously inclined to sentimentalise the past – to them yesterday’s heroes are incomparably more heroic than today’s. Greybeards also have a galling tendency of locating the defects of the upstart heroes, then offering foolproof prescriptions for these defects. Nevertheless, sometimes the past can help explain the present, and even offer a way forward.

We have just completed a book on ‘The Pros’ – the little band of ‘professional’ tennis players who, before 1967 and ‘Open Tennis’, played for money before the public. Only after that were they allowed to compete against the so-called ‘amateurs’ in the great fiestas like Wimbledon and today’s Australian Open.

In our book we analyse the style and the strategy of the eight pro champions from 1930 to 1967. One of them, Ken Rosewall, was in the gallery watching the Federer match. Another, Rod Laver, had given his name to the arena in which it was played. What can the old masters tell us?

First, both were in the direct line of the first pro champion ‘Big Bill’ Tilden, guru to several generations of tennis players. Two Tilden maxims are central here.

The first was ‘always change a losing game’. The second involved what Tilden called exaltedly, ‘the tennis player’. To Tilden, the maestro tennis player possessed facility at net and the baseline, powers of defence as well as attack, and a capacity to change pace or spin. Moreover they had the ability to draw on these manifold resources when occasion and opponent demanded.

So, if in trouble, Rosewall and Laver were exemplary with the unexpected. Indeed the Laver genius of invention was such that he appeared to relish being put in a position to test it. John Newcombe once said that he never knew when he was in bigger trouble, being two sets to love up on ‘The Rocket’, or two sets down - and he wasn’t entirely joking. What Newcombe meant was this: being behind seemed to fire up Laver’s wondrous best, both technically and strategically.

As for the almost tiny Rosewall, his forte was taking on the goliaths: by his quickness, and his mastery of the net, he could ‘turn back his opponent’s pace’, making them flounder, and incapable of setting up their power strokes. In a rare flight of poetry, the American Marty Riessen said of Rosewall’s capacity to surprise, ‘you never see him coming, and you never hear him coming’.

So, most respectfully, we might ask why Federer didn’t take a leaf from the book of these earlier masters – and sometimes follow in his serve, or break up his opponent’s rhythm by changes of pace, placement, or spin.

However for Federer to do so involves something more than questioning his game plan –which has, admittedly been monumentally successful. He must also challenge a belief central to modern tennis, and which explains much of the modern game’s rigidity.

This belief is that improved technology means that the only way to win is by pulverising the ball with huge topspin, and slugging it out from the baseline. Rather than a goal, the net is regarded as a danger zone. Thus when they do find themselves at net many modern players resemble the clergyman who discovers himself not at a choir meeting but in a bordello.

A good part of the reason for this is that they all seem party to one of the modern age’s most insidious and often ludicrous beliefs: that technology is invested with magical power.

Federer hits the ball much harder than did that legendary pair of little blokes, Rosewall and Laver. Yet he seems governed by the ‘technological imperative’ – everything, today, is different: the new apparatus allows only baseline slug-feasts. So strategy is emasculated.

In elite sport, as in warfare, the victor’s most important weapon remains the same - a flexible mind. Roger Federer, as he looks back on the Australian debacle, might do well to take out some old tennis videos, and perhaps reflect on John McEnroe’s famous remark: ‘Tennis is 75% mental: and the rest is mental’.

Reference: “The Pros - Forgotten Heroes” by Peter Underwood, with Roger Underwood, 2007. Unpublished MS

Contact by email: yorkgum@westnet.com.au

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Thanks Roger for your thoughts and I couldn't agree more.

As a teaching professional, my biggest concern is that young players to our game are being taught this stuff that is so well described in Mr. Underwood's article. 

We're talking baseline only strategies that are simply based on ball bashing with extreme forehand grips. 

Hey, I wish Fed would use all of the different grips I know he has available to him.  I've always said that he's the best guy on the planet because he has so many grips available to him.  Unfortunately, we're not seeing him use them when it's appropriate to try and "change a losing game".

I'm telling you, if we continue to teach and promote a Nadal style of play, we're going to kill off this game somewhere down the road.

I've seen way too many young adults who were taught baseline only strategies give up tennis in their mid 20s and early 30s because that style just isn't any fun or because of the injuries suffered from that style.  As juniors, tennis was less about "fun" and more about pure winning.

And as they got older, the young adults' perception of trying to convert to an "all-court" style of play using lots of different grips was just to big of an ordeal to have to face.

I'm not promoting total doom and gloom, but I am saying that we have to demand something different from our teaching pros at least.

I worked out on the court with my good friend Michael Wayman yesterday and we had this same conversation. 

And you know, Michael said what Mr. Underwood's article was really all about, let's give Nadal and Fed wood rackets and let the boys have a bit of a bash and let's see what happens.

The racket technology has allowed the tournament pros to do things we've never ever seen before in tennis.  But that doesn't mean we should be teaching it.

Don't give in to the glitzy hype of the Roddick forehand and service motion that doesn't naturally move him forward into the court.

If you're reading this post and you're a young teaching pro, please, teach your juniors how to volley FIRST.

Teach them how to play doubles before you teach them how to play singles.

Yeah I know, sort of radical.  But think about it for a minute.  As a teaching pro, what really is your job?

Your job is not to help kids become touring pros or even to play just like the pros we see on TV.

Your job is to help kids learn how to play tennis for the rest of their lives.  And that means teaching them everything about the game.  Don't limit them...

If they get good enough to play on the tour, then it's all gravy.

Baseline only ball bashing strategies and techniques will not get it done if you want to help people play tennis for their rest of their lives.

Brent

www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Lessons.htm

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    • 6/11/2008 10:55 AM Jerrell wrote:
      I couldn't agree more with everything you said. I like what you said about Roger and Rafa picking up wooden racquets and letting them have a go. I've used one before and I must admit, it left me wondering how in the world professional tennis players EVER used them so well.

      Also, do you think if someone who mastered a serve and volley style of play could really dominate toady's style of baseline play? I myself LOVE to serve and volley, partially because my coach emphasizes the use of volleys. But still, it's difficult when playing against opponents who bash the ball with amazing power across the net. I've gotten hit a couple times, but it's just a matter of picking up the racquet and continuing on. Do you think volleying just isn't a practical way to play anymore, or is just not taught enough?
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      1. 6/11/2008 1:04 PM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        Volleys aren't taught enough because it's easier for teaching pros to get immediate results by going with this baseline only, semi to full western forehand crap.

        Look, I'm not picking on the teaching pros because after 35+ years of teaching on a tennis court, I can tell you, it's tough manual labor, and my hat goes off to anyone who can go through that physical torture.

        It's a real labor of love.  Most tennis teaching pros aren't going to become wealthy standing on a court 5-8 hours a day.

        I really respect the guys and gals who love to help others, who love to teach tennis, and it can be very rewarding.

        BUT, teaching pros have got to figure out what the true purpose of teaching tennis is, and to me, it's how do you give someone the tools to be able to play this great game for the rest of their lives.

        Any form of a western forehand grip where baseline play is the dominant strategy ain't gonna help someone eventually play tennis for the rest of their lives.

        And it's tough on the teaching pros because they've got parents coming up to them and demanding their little Johnny or Janie be taught to play like Roddick or Nadal.

        It's a challenge to convince a parent that what Roddick does is not what their kid should be doing IF they want that kid to have something they can do for the rest of their lives.

        Don't compare what we see on TV to what happens at the amateur level.  Just because Nadal can hit passing shots all day long against Federer, arguably one of the all-time greats, doesn't mean that the same thing is going to happen at our level.

        Does anyone out there truly believe that Nadal isn't an incredibly well trained world class athlete?

        And I hate to break it to you, but if you're not close to Rafa's level of natural athletic ability combined with a  dedication for training that is incomprehensible, then the cold hard facts are that you will never ever be able to copy what he does, even on a relative level.  No way...

        I don't know if we'll ever see a pro be able to dominate with pure serve and volley the way Sampras did.

        The most recent racket and string technologies combined with the never before seen player training methods may just make it impossible for someone at the pro level to do what Pete did.

        But who cares?  The point is what's right for us, not the top .000001% of the players in the world who make money on the tour.

        I'm telling you, if we keep trying to teach kids to play like Roddick or Nadal, the tennis industry is eventually in for a heap of trouble.  We won't be able to keep players in the game.  Physical injuries and the mental torture of having to keep "grinding" from the baseline when someone's 40 years old is going to be rough.

        The only thing I know to do is to make sure we help players learn all aspects of the game. 

        I admit that helping a kid learn how to not only have a solid groundstroke game combined with the ability to move forward into the court and play 1/2 volleys, volleys, etc. is much more challenging than showing a kid a semi western forehand grip, feeding endless balls, and yelling "go, go, go...".  (Yeah, try that when you're 50).

        Look at Sampras and Laver.  Both all-court players who didn't really become good until late in their junior careers.

        So. it takes a little longer to develop as an all-court player.  But maybe this is just a by-product of where we're at these days with this instant gratification stuff...

        Teach the kid a continental grip to start.  Start the kid up at net for a couple of weeks and let them know that the volley is fun.  What a concept...

        Brent

        www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Lessons.htm


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    • 6/11/2008 12:26 PM BillyBee wrote:
      Great debate, and I think Brent and the Underwoods make excellent points.

      However, there's a reason you don't see many top pros coming to the net -- they get passed too easily with sharpshooting baseliners swinging high-powered rackets.

      Did you see what happened on the few occasions that Roger DID come to the net? Nadal smoked passing winners with ease.

      But Brent makes a great point that Federer has a bunch of grips to utilize, and surely he could have done something to engage Rafa more effectively.

      You have to wonder if Roger's era is coming to a rapid close. Didn't Nadal take him to five sets at Wimbledon last year? Dojokovich and Nadal are right on his heels.
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      1. 6/11/2008 1:23 PM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        Changing a losing gamne doesn't mean that you "try" some serve and volley a handful of times, get smoked, and figure that it's not going to work.

        Serve and volley, chip and charge, etc., is about a never ending relentless attack over the course of many sets.

        You're going to get passed, probably a lot, but your chances of getting Nadal to finally become "human" are way better that way than by staying back and trying to overcome Rafa.

        And again, one of the points I've been making throughout this discussion is what we see on TV doesn't necessarily transfer over to our games.

        Because Rafa can pass like a monster even against one of the all-time greats doesn't mean that our oipponents are going to have the same exact response.

        You also make a good point about Roger's era possibly coming to a screeching halt.

        There are definitley more guys out there now who don't fear him as they did before.

        I think that if Fed doesn't totally commit to a serve and volley style at Wimbledon that he might not ever win that event again.

        Could be wrong, but he's got to be feeling the pressure from his losses to baseliners such as Nadal, Djokavic, and even Roddick this year. 

        I remember when Becker wanted to prove that he could beat anyone at their style was the begiining of the end for him.

        Fed said a few years ago after wining his first or second Wimbledon that he didn't feel a need to serve and volley much, that he could out groundstroke the guys on grass.

        Since then I think his serve has changed a bit for the worse to where he no longer has natural forward movement coming out of his serve and into the court. 

        I don't know, but he may just have to go back to the drawing board for a year and regain that mojo...

        Brent

        www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Lessons.htm


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    • 6/11/2008 6:26 PM rhees blewett wrote:
      Hi Brent, the teach 'Volley' first idea is probably not what most kids want to do. But, I see myself telling them that when you're at net, you are in the position that will likely be where the winning shot comes from. Most of the other points are won from an error - forced or likely unforced. So I think your point is valid, although Bjorn Borg would disagree !
      A lot of kids I see are taught volley/net approach as a minor part of the program. Serve & volley only seems to become necessary when they move into higher Senior ranks and it suddenly dawns on them that their Senior partner is getting frustrated with the net rush from the other side of the court. Roddick's big serve does little to encourage forward movement, but I know it does wonders for your serve and creates untold pressure on the returner.
      Tennis should be fun, with shot variety and game styles providing a more intriguing, interesting game for players and spectators. Federer maybe lacking new ideas and his game is still good enough to be the next best on clay - but it seems it time again for a Coach !!
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      1. 6/12/2008 10:34 AM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        Kids these days are taught to play singles first, not doubles...

        And the volley is not what they want to learn first probably because that's not what they see on TV.

        And the initial focus on singles is baseline strategies. 

        It's easier to teach, the pro, the kid, and the parents get immediate results, and you're right, the transition to the net is an after thought.

        Those kids never get the chance to become really good doubles players.

        As Mr. Stow used to tell me, the reason we spend so much time on approach shots, 1/2 volleys, overheads, etc. is because it's just a helluva lot more fun!

        Brent

        The Secrets to the Forehand and Backhand Volleys

        www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Volleys.htm
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    • 6/12/2008 3:09 AM Judah First wrote:
      Brent,

      It's funny you should mention picking up a wooden racket and slugging it out ... That's exactly the kind of tournament my brother holds every summer on his grass court! He went around to different yard sales and collected a bunch of wooden rackets. Then he invited his tennis buddies over to see what it was like to switch from a "sweet spot" to a "sweet DOT" as they laughingly call it. :^)

      I loved your articles. However, I feel there are different reasons for Federer's losses this year. Mind you, I'm no tennis pro, and this is just my opinion. But, even as Federer was besting Djokovic in the 2007 US Open, I was saying, "Something's wrong with Federer." I didn't know what it was (still don't), but the problem was evident to me then.

      It's my personal belief that Federer has lost interest in the game. Your comments on his inability to change a losing game rang true - but only because I think he really is bored. Not surprising with the way he refuses to change his strategy in order to win. I remember telling my parents last year, "Federer plays like he doesn't care ... I've never seen him like this."

      At first I thought it was the pressure of maintaining his No. 1 status that was dragging him down. But after watching him lose to Nalbandian and Djokovic in the late Fall (2007) and then his poor performance at the Australian and the French, I'm convinced there's more going on here than a stoic demeanor and a bout with mononucleosis! Something's amiss.

      Because of Federer's stoic character, it took me several years before I really liked watching him play. But it seems like just as I was becoming a Federer fan, he lost his steam and gave up.

      Despite the fact that for the moment, Nadal is playing the best tennis on the field, there's no doubt in my mind that Federer lost the final at the French. I've never seen so many impatient, unforced errors in my life - not from a master of the game! I mean, I kept yelling at the TV, "Federer! I can do THAT!" All of US know all about producing unforced errors. But losing the French Open final with unforced errors is absurd for someone like Roger Federer. At the very least he could have forced Nadal to actually win it.

      It will be very interesting to see what result Federer achieves at Wimbledon. Frankly, I'm getting tired of watching him play. Where are the passionate players - you know, the ones who entertained us, like Jimmy Conners and John McEnroe? Where have all the hungry players gone (and why can't they reach the finals of the big tournaments)?? I guess I'll be looking to Nadal for that, eh? :^)

      Well, thanks for your blogs, Brent! Sure do enjoy reading what you have to say about tennis. And thanks for the lessons, too! God bless!

      JF
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      1. 6/12/2008 10:41 AM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        Hey JF and thanks for your comments.

        I think the only thing Fed can do now to get his mojo back is to fully to commit to serve and volley, chip and charge, etc. like Sampras did at Wimbledon and show us that he is "hungry" to at least tie Pete's 14 majors.

        Brent

        www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Lessons.htm

        Serve and Volley - The Insider Secrets by Brent
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    • 6/12/2008 3:42 AM abc wrote:
      the review on roger's game is well taken but let's give credit to the guy - being no. 1 for 4 years - winning several slams - his proven game brought him to where he is - do you think it is easy for him to just shift to another game plan after this? i think more than anything else - he is not at all convinced that he has to make this adjustment (well...hopefully after the french he will - but heading to his court at wimbledon - i doubt it). what makes him a great player is because of his style of play. also, i believe raffa really played extremely well. roger tried to make adjustments by going to the net - unfortunately it didn't work enough. errors kept piling up. i guess this happens even to the best player of the world.
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      1. 6/12/2008 10:44 AM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        Yeah, but I don't think Fed can Wimbledon again by predominately staying back at the baseline as he has during the past 4-5 years.

        If he doesn't get into a full blwon serve and volley deal, he may not win Wimbledon again this year.

        Brent

        www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Lessons.htm

        "Serve and Volley Tennis - The Insider Secrets" by Brent Abel
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    • 6/12/2008 4:25 AM Allan wrote:
      I don't know whether it is just me... but I see Nadal running mainly side to side, parallel with the baseline. With an angled shot, he runs wider and wider to return it rather than cut it off.
      When Djokovic beat him he played short angles using an inside-out forehand to Nadal's forehand.
      When Davydenko won in Miami, he used a short angle - but this time to Nadal's backhand and this proved effective.
      My point is that Federer lost his way in this match and did not draw on his own experience or those of others playing Nadal.
      I recall a two years ago when Federer won the first set 6-0, playing, basically a serve and volley game. At the end of the set, Nadal received medical treatment and Federer lost the plot. He hardly attacked again.
      I do think that he believes that he can win with any game plan and sadly, that is now not the case with the improvements being made by other players. There were times at Roland Garros that he seemed to stand in disbelief that his shots were missing - and he just continued to try to prove himself right. He did not adhere to the adage.. 'change a losing game'.
      Does Federer have the mental strength to adapt his play or will he succumb to players who are now overcoming their previous mental inferiority? I think Federer is better than that.. but we'll see.
      There is no doubting the brutal strength and mental toughness of Nadal and the ability of Djokovic -he still has to prove his mental ability... and there may be others in the wings who may get on a streak, like Bagdatis, Fish and Tsonga.
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      1. 6/12/2008 10:51 AM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        You're right, Fed may not want to accept the reality that he cannot do what Rafa does.  Roger looks to me as if he simply wants to continue to outdo Rafa at his own game to prove to everyone that he is the best of all time.

        And he may also not accept the reality that others have figured out a way to beat Rafa that was not originated by Roger himself.

        As stoic as this guy is, it's almost like he believes the hype we all read, that he is superman, and that we've never seen anything like him before.

        I don't know, as Mr. Stow used to always tell me, no matter how great a player someone is, they are just human beings, meaning you can eventually find a way to make this guy play at a level that gives you a chance to overcome.

        Brent

        www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Lessons.htm


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    • 6/12/2008 5:10 PM Phil wrote:
      Your comments re Federer are right on the money. Teaching the volley first has been mentioned before - it gives beginners confidence 'cause they don't have to worry about the bounce.
      Also don't forget how Arthur Ashe beat Connors at Wimbeldon.
      Maybe Roger should get a coach? Are you available Brent?
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      1. 6/25/2008 8:57 PM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        Clay and grass (Fed losing to Nadal and Connors losing to Ashe) are obviously extremely different surfaces and require not only different strokes & strategies, but also very different mindsets.

        The point here is that if we keep using baseline strokes & strategies as our teaching models, we'll never see another Ashe beat Connors as he did by never letting the ball bounce.

        I've been watching the past few days of Wimbledon 2008 and I'm just amazed at how many opportunities are lost to approach the net .

        This is a grass tennis court folks, the ball doesn't want to bounce, it wants to skid and stay low, and I don't care how much they say the grass has been slowed down at Wimbledon over the past few years, come on, get your butt up to net a hundred times and "force" these so-called ball bashers to pass you 100 times.

        And if you get passed a couple of times and say to yourself that this isn't working, then you don't get what relentless court position pressure is all about.

        If someone comes up to net 100% of the time behind their serve, and let's say 50% of the time behind their opponent's serve, I don't know, help me out with the match here, but there is no one on the pro tour who can hit passing shots and win points from the baseline a majority of the time IF someone is relentless coming in behind their serve and their return of serve.

        Especially someone as skilled as Federer...

        I'd just like to see him try it, even at the French.

        Brent


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    • 6/13/2008 7:28 AM Steve wrote:
      Ah - the price of fame! We all get to evaluate an individuals life and talents, even though we don't know them and put those comments out there for eternity. What a price to pay!

      I do agree with much which has been said about teaching styles and the "game of tennis". I believe that unfortunately, the media and commentators have much to do with changes in teaching styles. Teaching fads that come along, (results of a phenom who appears with an individual style) will predominantly work only for a few individuals. But in an attempt to keep the sport exciting I think the discussions move towards the teaching changes.

      As for Mr.Federer, he is one of the greatest in tennis and he will remain so, - let us not forget he is in the finals! The single mindedness and focus to be #1 starts long before we ever hear of an individual. Mr. Federer is human - he may be mentally tired. He is involved in a relationship - that also diverts one's attention. Look at the greats in any sport when a relationship starts. They seems to have a distraction in their focus.

      Let us not over analyze the guy. Is there one of us out there who has not been distracted? The difference is that everyone is not looking! He has been a #1 player. He may end up being the #1 player of all time, and he will be back to what you have seen in the past, and let us not diminish the tenacity of Mr. Nadal.
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      1. 6/25/2008 8:44 PM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        I agree with you completely re: Fed being the one of if not the greatest of all time, but come on, let's at least find a different way to lose.

        That would make RF a lot more "human" as you suggest than what we saw at the French this year.

        Brent
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    • 6/24/2008 11:29 PM leenatl wrote:
      Great site Brent and your comments are dead on as usual.I to believe that we should teach the volley first and i do this with my juniors and beginning adults. I'm a teaching pro in Atlanta whom coaches adult league players (doubles). The hardest thing that I've encounter is trying to get them to learn the continental grip (or eastern) and the correct volley technique. Most want to play from the baseline and rarely move forward to take a ball out of the air. They always will back up and let the ball bounce before hitting it and then ask why are they always losing to people they know that they should be beating? I'm telling them to practice their volleys & grips during the off-season for future improvement. Whats your method of teaching unyielding adults to volley?
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      1. 6/25/2008 9:07 PM 1 Brent Abel wrote:
        For me it's pretty simple...

        I tell my students that if they don't learn how to volley, they won't really experience what the game is all about.

        My students work on and practice a ton of volleys.

        Once they get the "feel", it's a life changing experience.  (OK, not quite that dramatic, but the smile they get is tough to get off their face!).

        Look, set up doubles drills, any kind of drill that is fun where they end up at the net.

        www.webtennis.net/Tennis-Volleys.htm

        Brent
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